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Undercurrents is a regular podcast series featuring interviews with Chatham House experts - and others - about the critical underlying issues which are shaping modern society. Hosted by staff from across the institute, each episode goes in-depth on a topic, looking beyond the news to explore the issues shaping global politics.

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Jul 18, 2019

In the last full episode before Undercurrents' summer break, Ben is joined by Chatham House colleague Leah de Haan for two interviews from the annual Gender and Growth Forum. 

Ben speaks with Rosamund Ebdon, Head of Policy at Plan International, about a new report looking at girls' perceptions of leadership. They discuss how to improve the gender balance in management, the importance of role models and whether society's understanding of leadership qualities should change.

Leah then explores the challenges presented by ageing populations, particularly prevalent in Europe, with leading demography expert Sergei Scherbov. They assess whether existing policy is properly adjusted to meet the needs of older people, and what else can be done. 

Watch highlights of the 2019 Chatham House Gender and Growth Forum:

Shaping the Future We Want 

Read the report:

Taking the Lead: Girls and Young Women on Changing the Face of Leadership



Speakers: Rosamund Ebdon and Sergei Scherbov

Hosts: Ben Horton and Leah de Haan

Producer: Ben Horton

Sound Editor: Jamie Reed

Record and produced at Chatham House, London